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Kali Fin DPS Delivery Truck Jokers Wild. 0	Posted - 2012.02.09 15:09:00 - [1] - Quote Alxea wrote: I really like the Tornado, spent some time testing it on the test server. Can kill 2 machs. If your lucky it can alpha todeath an untanked hulk with a single shot vs a noob. I really like that fact. I am near maxed in the tornado. The max that is possible is about 20k damage with 2 shots. So even a decently tanked hulk will die. Max tanked hulks get up to about 25k, they can be killed with a gallente tear 3 BC. I also can do about 1500 DPS with that ship. I've had a lot of success with the Talos. Hulks, even decently tanked ones, stood no chance. 8 T2 neutrons with void and 4 T2 mag stabs (maybe a point or two if you're going after a few ships) and you're done. Cost is around 70 mil to fit it out, but you can easily get 2 hulks with it in a 0.6. Fair warning, scan your prey to make sure they aren't uber tanked, just in case. Also: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/goonswarm-guide-to-highsec-ganking.html Mitten's guide to ganking things.
Kali Fin DPS Delivery Truck Jokers Wild. 2	Posted - 2012.02.13 17:21:00 - [2] - Quote Herr Wilkus wrote: Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Kali Fin wrote: Alxea wrote: I really like the Tornado, spent some time testing it on the test server. Can kill 2 machs. If your lucky it can alpha todeath an untanked hulk with a single shot vs a noob. I really like that fact. I am near maxed in the tornado. The max that is possible is about 20k damage with 2 shots. So even a decently tanked hulk will die. Max tanked hulks get up to about 25k, they can be killed with a gallente tear 3 BC. I also can do about 1500 DPS with that ship. I've had a lot of success with the Talos. Hulks, even decently tanked ones, stood no chance. 8 T2 neutrons with void and 4 T2 mag stabs (maybe a point or two if you're going after a few ships) and you're done. Cost is around 70 mil to fit it out, but you can easily get 2 hulks with it in a 0.6. Fair warning, scan your prey to make sure they aren't uber tanked, just in case. Also: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/goonswarm-guide-to-highsec-ganking.html Mitten's guide to ganking things as brought to you by the one and only Poetic Stanziel IMHO, the Talos is the most brutal suicide ganking vessel available today. I wrote a guide to fighting hulkageddon, that includes how to actually tank a hulk against suicide attacks. It provides a lot of useful information, for both the ganker to gank, and the gankee to survive. Perhaps you are feeding disinformation, but if you believe the Talos is the best ganking boat out there - you are WAY off base. Especially in context of Hulkaggedon. Talos excels at one thing - dropping three of them on a badly fit Orca, point blank range. Tornados are far and away better. If CCP understood just HOW much better they'd probably break out the nerf bat, because they are only hugging carebear nutsak these days. Most Torandos don't get used to the most of their capabilities yet, and STILL outsell the Talos by a huge margin - what 5 to 1? Fair point. The Tornado DOES get extremely high alpha and single hulks (and most other indy ships) don't stand a chance. The cycle time on 1400's however is stupid long, so if you're going after multiple targets that are ******** enough to stick close together, the Talos does the job QUITE well. Overheated, the blasters get a damage bonus, and since they have a fast cycle time and high alpha to begin with, you can take out 2-3 targets no problem. For single targets, though, the tornado is better. I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.
Kali Fin DPS Delivery Truck Jokers Wild. 2	Posted - 2012.02.13 17:23:00 - [3] - Quote thuzad Kael wrote: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Trader+102 10 macks and a pod with 1 phoon in 0.7 system. sadly i miscalculated and only got 1 pod. useing a disco phoon fit witch takes less then 9 days to train and fit with a fresh minmatar char. total cost of phoon and fit when bought: 75m TAKE DA MINERS TO DA DISCOOO! If you have money to burn and are in it for the tears, disco battleships eat mackinaw groups for breakfast, and get thier expensive carebear pod 99% of the time. I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.
Kali Fin DPS Delivery Truck Jokers Wild. 4	Posted - 2012.02.14 15:47:00 - [4] - Quote Herr Wilkus wrote: Kali Fin wrote: Fair point. The Tornado DOES get extremely high alpha and single hulks (and most other indy ships) don't stand a chance. The cycle time on 1400's however is stupid long, so if you're going after multiple targets that are ****** enough to stick close together, the Talos does the job QUITE well. Overheated, the blasters get a damage bonus, and since they have a fast cycle time and high alpha to begin with, you can take out 2-3 targets no problem. For single targets, though, the tornado is better. No, the Tornado is better against multiple targets - and single targets. I routinely cycle my 1400MM (overheated) 3-4 times before Concord kills me in 0.7. I alpha at 13+K so thats roughly 36-48K damage per Tornado with average hit quality. You can distribute that damage amongst multiple targets spread 70-100KM apart. Can't fly the Talos, but based on my knowledge of suicide ganking, I'm quite sure it can't even approach that. I'm training Hybrids because I believe the Talos has a role in killing Cargo-fit Orcas, but the Talos just didn't grow up with all the advantages of the Tornado. -30KM of optimal + very long falloff range of Tornado pushes your engagement envelope to 50KM or more. -ammo switching (as Catalyst ganking is pushing miners to tank Kin/Therm) -alpha + more raw damage. Anybody who wants to be a dedicated ganker should max their Tornado/Arty skills first. Hybrid ganking is a distant second. Alpha ganking >>>>> DPS ganking. There are two ways to make Hulk/Mackinaw ganking profitable. A) kill a single Mackinaw or Hulk with a single Catalyst. (Yes you can solo gank Hulks with Cats....) B) kill at least 2 Mackinaws/Hulks per BC hull, but more is better. Kill 4, and you are rolling in cash. This, by itself, is profitable. The real money starts to roll in when you threaten the miners. -Evemail them, demand 200M ISK or you'll track them down and blow them up repeatedly. -Follow up on your threat using address books, tracking agents, and an Orca to easily move your op. You'll either get tears, CCP petition threats, or ISK. All are good. I find that most of them will pay after losing 2-3 Exhumers to the same ganking alt. Try to identify bots/mining accounts that belong to the same group/person, and kill all at once. Quite effective. The good thing about blasters is that they have high dps AND good alpha. Obviously not higher than a tornado, but it's up there. Well over 6000 a volley when overheated, as well as fast cycle time. Unfortunately, targets have to be relatively close because, you know...blasters... Anyway, not arguing that the Tornado is gank king, just saying that the Talos can have just as muc hsuccess when carebears are ****** enough to sit 3km apart in a group of three. I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.
Kali Fin DPS Delivery Truck Jokers Wild. 4	Posted - 2012.02.14 15:51:00 - [5] - Quote Herr Wilkus wrote: The real money starts to roll in when you threaten the miners. -Evemail them, demand 200M ISK or you'll track them down and blow them up repeatedly. -Follow up on your threat using address books, tracking agents, and an Orca to easily move your op. You'll either get tears, CCP petition threats, or ISK. All are good. I find that most of them will pay after losing 2-3 Exhumers to the same ganking alt. Try to identify bots/mining accounts that belong to the same group/person, and kill all at once. Quite effective. THIS! OMG THIS! Actually, there's a certain person that I'm going to hunt. Hopefully I can get enough ISK out of him for a nice shiny new Naglfar, but tears would be good too. I've been quite thirsty recently... I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.
Kali Fin Pod-A-Lot Syndicate Jokers Wild. 7	Posted - 2012.03.15 17:22:00 - [6] - Quote Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Alxea wrote: http://test.true-sansha.com/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1796 Proof that it is possible to kill 4 exhumers in a 0.5 before getting concorded. Also tanked ones die at a average of 3 out of 4 sometimes 4 out of 4. Edit WTF... their kb is gay. It will not let me link to my own kills. Sigh! Says ID not specified error. http://test.true-sansha.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=76206 I see, has to be copy pasted because of how ccp handles external links. Did you get four consecutive shots off with the same turret, or did you split your weapon's fire? I think I'll test this with sisi tonight... When trying to gank multiple targets, it's best to split your groups up. When using a talos, I use 2 groups of 4, when using a tornado, I use 3 groups of 2 and 2 ungrouped guns just in case they target doesn't die. As for herr's post concerning the drag and drop of items into an orca, bloody brilliant. I would have never thought you could drag and drop straight into the corp hanger without using the fitting service. That little trick is gonna save me a lot of isk. lol I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.

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